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Where’s the Guns, Paco?

May 30th, 2003 · 8 Comments

From Matthew Yglesias

So what’s happened? Where have the weapons gone? Were they all just destroyed, as Don Rumsfeld’s rosy scenario would have us believe? Are they missing — smuggled out of the country into the hands of al-Qaeda or other terrorist groups? Did the government just lie to us?

Good question.

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8 responses so far ↓

  • 1 pumpinCAD // May 30, 2003 at 3:41 pm

    yeah, my favorite is from old Don Rummy when asked why they haven’t found any weapons of mass destruction yet. His reply was that it takes time to find things people don’t want you to find.

    Didn’t we say UN weapon inspections were taking too long, and didn’t we use that as a reason for going to war in the first place??

  • 2 Beers Z Boy // May 30, 2003 at 4:27 pm

    > Did the government just lie to us?

    Or they are incompetant. Take your pick.

  • 3 tone // May 31, 2003 at 7:39 pm

    Worth some consideration:

    http://www.techcentralstation.com/1051/defensewrapper.jsp?PID=1051-350&CID=1051-053003D

  • 4 Pedro // Jun 1, 2003 at 10:27 pm

    Thought you might like to know:

    The South speaks out!
    No to Endless War!

    There will be a permitted rally, Saturday, June 7th, 2003 at 2pm in Grant Park (Boulevard & Delmar) – Atlanta, GA. (Marta: Shuttle from King Memorial Station).
    Followed by a permitted parade to King Center (Rain or Shine).

    More information visit June 7 dot Org, call (404) 215-4548, or e-mail: j7@leveller.org

  • 5 Chris // Jun 2, 2003 at 9:09 am

    I’m suprised the south has time to speak out about war, with their busy flag discussion schedule, and all!

    :)

  • 6 nic // Jun 2, 2003 at 1:15 pm

    Oh for goodness sakes. The government didn’t lie and they aren’t incompetent either. Saddam was brilliant at denial and deception and had plenty of strategic and tactical warning. So, he probably hid, destroyed, and/or moved the contraband.

    And once more, just because I so love repeating myself, it was never the job of the inspectors to FIND the WMD. It was their job to oversee the destruction of same. Iraq was obligated by any number of international agreements to surrender his WMD voluntarily and destroy it while the UN watched.

  • 7 Scotty The Body // Jun 2, 2003 at 1:27 pm

    I KNEW we could get the Holy Flame of Zion out of her hibernation on that one!

    It’s true, what you say: the U.S. has no legal obligation to find these weapons, as the fact that they are missing, with no proof of their destruction, is reason enough for Iraq to be found in “violation” of the U.N. resolutions (and the cease fires, etc.)...

    But it sure would be nice if they found some cache of vile stuff, although the entire world will be saying we planted it…

  • 8 Scotty The Body // Jun 2, 2003 at 1:31 pm

    And really, what I mean by “good question” in response to Mister Yglasias, is the better question is “were the weapons ‘smuggled out of the country and into the hands of Al-Qaeda or other terrorist groups.’”

    To me, that is the scariest possibility. Even scarier than the possibility that our government “spun” the evidence of the weapons’ existence.

    In fact, I didn’t find Colin Powell’s UN presentation very compelling at all. I certainly saw no real proof. But then again, we were just “playing nice,” at that point.

    The current spin worldwide among the vague supporters of the war is that it really doesn’t matter if we find the weapons or not. What history will remember will be whether or not the war went well and the resulting state of the region.

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